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But i want to role play as an empire that rules core worlds while letting vassals rule in their stead but sadly their is no real benefit to vassalizing anyone apart from tributary (which makes feudal society useless. Does anyone have any input on how to change your subject from a tributary/tribal vassal to a feudatory subject in order to integrate them? The wiki does not give any answer. < >When trying to change my vassal into a specialist type, the option does not appear. Therefore, managing vassals is crucial to the success of your empire in Stellaris. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. I had a quick question about the secret fealty system. The biggest bonus to having a vassal or tributary is the buffer zone so why not make them pay. Temporarily you can keep them as buffers between you and some powerful neighbor. • 21 days ago. I've also heard this is the best way to get a vassal to agree to a special vassal status, by trading away heavy tributes for the status change. The opposite is also true. This guarantee can be revoked at any time. IMO tributaries are worth it in the early game. As such, tributaries are better than subsidiaries, so do not pick megacorp for subsidiaries. You cannot even choose to change terms to "not defend subject" if the vassal is a protectorate, tributary, scholarium, bulwark or prospectorium. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Stellaris. Join. Meaning the more you're winning against your tributary, the more war score your tributary will get against you. This protection may include military support, diplomatic backing, or other forms of assistance. I am wondering what the cause of that is and if there is anything I can do to. Gift them minerals, energy and if required, food. You'll basically take colonies and upon ending the war, they turn into a new empire matching your empire ethics. Thanks beta testers, now I can wait for a sale. If I can make tributaries -> vassals and then diploannex them at a later date, I'm peachy. FC - A protectorate becomes a vassal at 60%, a vassal becomes a protectorate (automatically) at 50%. . Now, if a system with pirates stays unnattended for too long (10 years or more), the pirates will try to seize a nearby colony. It’s fine if you declared war. Stellaris. I've beaten two of them recently, and forced one to be my tributary and the other one my vassal. Conquest+intergration will be a usefull tool here. Starts off OK, but future added features never offset the raising prices. They are all extremely strong perks with them. war, peace, etc. I don't think it's possible to switch them directly but if you release them you should be able to re-subjugate them, via war. No no it was the other way round. Hegemons can also continue to expand their empires and make claims and declare. A number of factors influence vassal loyalty in Stellaris, from the terms of your original contract with the subject empire and the trade deals you broker with them, to whether you declare war on. and I'd like to play up that "Benevolent arrogance" aspect. Edit: says cannot build more than one. But they can reject renegotiations if they hate you and have the influence it is a pain just keep them loyal and they won't make you waste influence. You should be subsidizing Scholarium with basic resources and industrial/CG subsidies so they spend more of their pops as scientists, not fewer. Their fleets tend to follow their overlord's. As vassal you get the "help", and part of the fleet power of an inefficient non-difficulty boosted AI. It’s kinda pointless. This does not reflect. 138 Badges. Later on when I'm on repeatable tech I cede to get 100 % of the minerals and energy credits unless the enemy is on the butt end of the galaxy or has. It's sorta like the political version of slaves. Honestly, for AI ones under you, it's hard to beat Tributary or normal vassal for any of the bonus lol. Claiming territory and invading colonies. While a Protectorate, their Overlord gets a slight bonus to Influence. If your Ruler or Heir is "unmarried" you can marry an unmarried Ruler or Heir of the same species of a Vassal to for a massive opinion boost and a removal of the subject power penalty for as long as both live. I've noticed that the following seems to carry over. Outside of the special vassal bonuses, Tributary (subsidiary if you are megacorp) gives you the most payout, though you’d have to manage their loyalty. Select a planet within a Sector you control and navigate to the “Governor” screen. It was a tributary in a mercantile federation. Last I checked, there is no means of "upgrading" a Tributary into a Vassal, so you have to defeat, make tributary, sit around and let them continue doing exactly what they've been doing all along except it makes you a little richer, then attack them again in the hopes that they. Plus, if you've gotten said protectorate by doing something like. 7 to −3. The enemies you fight at that point where you would actually think of using AI help would obliterate AI ships so it's best to have them fund you. In the Contacts screen, the player can see a detailed list of all the empires they have encountered. 4. A Workshop Item for Stellaris. All the Special Vassals are fundamentally reducing their ability to produce science, either directly (the Scholarium science tribute) or in their basic resource economy. 3. The overlord can either renege on their guarentee of independence, or the Tributary can declare a war of independence. This mod-collection is created to make playing with Vassals, Tributaries, Protectorates and Subsidiaries. Their trust increases overtime and when they become lawful you don’t have to be anxious about it any more. I was playing a regular game of Stellaris (no mods, Ironman) and thought about declaring war on a nearby empire. I remember them doing this pre-2. • 7 mo. Take territory in a vassalization/tributary war as a hive mind against a non-gestalt empire, and then settle. They cannot declare war, and are forced to side with their Overlord in wars. Tributaries do have a benefit to them. thinking between vassal or tributary, if vassal it's 4k additional fleet power in wars (my combined is 8k), but unreliable when declaring wars, usually I want to have all fleet concentrated near borders, and probably war will have been finished by the time vassal fleet arrives to destination. Any one of the three get protection. I just was small, capped by my core planets, but with a good tech and good income. Vassal Contracts are a massive new feature of the Stellaris 3. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Im proposing this kind thing mostly because i dont like conquering the entire galaxy and having to manage it all and sadly the ai as a vassal is way too weak and almost everyone goes tributary but they dont fight for you etc. rules pretty harsh now: -must have domination tradision. ; About Stellaris Wiki; Mobile view Description. The base cost is 20, increased by 10 for each pop and 50 for each planet. If you drop a 600 influence cost vassalage negotiation on current vassal that has only 400 influence in their stockpile, they won't be able to refuse. The first method involves going to war with a target empire. Their trust increases overtime and when they become lawful you don’t have to be anxious about it any more. Paradox Staff. Stellaris Allows: Feudal is also the only way I know thus far that makes a 1 system play through possible. You will want at least one of every specialized vassal for the unique benefits and overlord holding. May 24, 2016 @ 4:20pm Originally posted by. As a megacorp, you are mostly making tributary vassal requests, so you get a basic resources boost, utilizing 30% of the vassals economy, only furthering your economy to easily vassalize more and more. Adeiu • 7 yr. So basically anything but a plain vassal. While the subordinate party is called a vassal, vassal state or tributary state, the dominant party is called a suzerain. and made the Groots my overlord instead. 8] Subscribe. You can do this by either vassalizing or stacking minus empire size modifiers. 4. IMO tributaries are worth it in the early game. This pairs quite. In cases where the vassal in question is large and rebellious, integration and re-releasing might be prudent. Unlike vassals, tributaries don't really help you in a war, but if it's a weak empire their fleet would be useless anyway and their resources are put in better use upkeeping your. The inability to do so is one of the main weaknesses of the MegaCorp empire type. Stellaris. Protectorate is a special vassal type that any vassal will automatically convert to if they are far inferior than you in tech. Basically sectors that cost nothing but only give 25% of raw resources. 1. Presets have a list of default terms, and can have. 9- Release the core sector of the former empire as a tributary. 0. 3 came out I find it to be rather difficult to get either of those options. Subsidiaries only pay energy, while tributaries pay both energy and minerals. Vassals are very bad. First the Overlord implicitly guarantees the independance of the Vassal, but without any influence cost. 4. 4. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by Paradox Development Studio. Stellaris > General Discussions > Topic Details. I made sure to keep borders closed on the diplomacy screen, yet they were able to send their science and construction ships through my territory. 5 influence. You can declare war on their master and set the terms to liberate their vassal. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?A vassal also run the risk of a full diplomatic integration by their Overlord. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Is there a command to vassilize a nation? Because I can't seem to find it. . To make a tributary a vessel the correct way would be free them from a tributary>go to war with become vassal as a war goal. - Changing your subject's name: To do this, I made it so your subject name will change to the name of your Capital system. esx9. How much information the screen offers depends on the Intel Level on the contacted empire: At the top we can see a recap of the other civ Empire, similar to player. You can't change it because they're not a vassal. All that said, Protectorates are by far the best subject type to stock up on, for that sweet +0. Even before 3. I play tall and use tributaries. In the default galaxy map mode, subjects have the same color as their overlord. Granted I play with mods like Stellaris Evolved and Gigastructures so there's tech at play that is extremely advanced and game changing. Now that you're part of a federation there's no way for you to actively ask for independence. This list was initiated with 2. The difference between a vassal state and a tributary state is that a tributary state pays tribute to the dominant state (Suzerain) in the form of taxes and tariff exemptions while a vassal state is simply dominated on military affairs. But honestly there's very little reason to continue this game. When releasing a sector as a vassal, what do they inherit from you? In my current playthrough as space Ethiopia (Neo-Askumite Empire), in accordance with the tradition of the መንግሥተ አኵስም , I have been releasing all sectors outside of my core system as vassal/tributary states. Neither. 60-100 years in, I'm spreading my glorious color galaxy wide, absorbing any independent empire that likes me, and you bet they'll like me. Currently bigger empires (ie conquest) is just stronger due to the fact that you can just increase your empire sprawl endlessly (ie no science loss from bigger empires) and the ai has weird ship designs and uses buildings suboptimally. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?If your combined military is greater than the overlord, they should start a war for independence, and pull you into it. In short, status quoing during a tributary/vassal war can result in a hive mind empire being created, even if they have 0 hive mind pops in their empire. As Tributary you get a small part of their resources. the game seems to make the war to expel branches of there overlord, which is A) pointless as they aren't a megacorp and B) very. #5. So, for example, I could demand an empire become my vassal, have them refuse, and then choose to declare war on them to become a tributary or a vassal. One more thing, any diplo action that you use favours on need atleast +1 so they get accepted, usually you can get a bit more by matching policies or improving relations. g. And tributaries are just better vassals that pay their taxes and don't. Presets have a list of default terms, and can have. If you're going aggressive. The overlord can't curtail their expansion, doesn't interfere in any of their wars (and vice versa), the tributary simply feeds them resources. And most people play on fast speeds rather than normal. I'm not sure what the problem is, but ive just conquered these guys as a vassal, then waited until i can change their contract, but i dont have the option to make them a rospectorium, or even a vassal in the first place. Give every vassal a 1000 Mineral and 1000 energy starting gift. The issue is when I declared an expel branch war against them it didn't work. The main contexts where you’d prefer a tributary to a vassal are when gestalt pops are involved: normal empires can’t keep/use gestalt pops outside of specific cases, and gestalts can only use normal pops as energy/food slaves outside of specific circumstances. Alternatively you could just hold off until you get everything you want then end the war. 2. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. Vassal is mostly for. Subscribe to downloadVassals and Tributaries - Exalted Domination [2. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?First off all the answer is no, you have to declare war to be able to break free. A vassal state is any state that has a mutual obligation to a superior state or empire, in a status similar to that of a vassal in the feudal system in medieval Europe. 3. Tributaries The way tributaries are set up in Stellaris, they can be excellent subjects from an economic point of view. Diplomacy screen, showing a situation where the player empire has little intel on the empire. I recently conquered another civilization, and they are now a tributary vassal. This button may be bugged however, as many players have reported it to be missing. as a trading partner or a buffer zone. Irbynx. i have all the dlc and have tried restarting my game but idk what the. Yes you can´t integrate them but considering how scarce influence can be sometimes, having someone giving energy and minerals isn´t a bad choice. . This is my first game of Stellaris, I turned a sector I conquered into a Vassal early on because they were seriously generating sprawl. How do we conquer other empires in Stellaris? Welcome to war goals and casus belli. About this site. All subject types now grant a small degree of influence, which can be put. After that kick someones ass with a goal for liberating a "Rival" Tributary(Your ethos) or a vassal/protectorate/standart tributary and a "Federation" Tributary. This pairs quite. Cheaper in war score and give monies to you. So I've been enjoying becoming a vassal of an AI empire for a while, my overlord is a member of a federation with me being incorporated into it. Since you can stack anchorage star bases for increased naval cap, and because upkeep costs so much more now, the extra fleet. So a criminal syndicate is doing its job and has a couple of branches open on my planets. Mr-H-Saether • 5 mo. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming. You can't force vassalise your own tributary (since you can't declare war on them), but you can ask them to become your vassal diplomatically. on the other you get this vassal/tributary mechanic preventing any surprise by making sure the subjugation candidate will either accept or be crushed, removing any real risk. r/Stellaris. Though not so much from a military angle. A vassal state is any state that has a mutual obligation to a superior state or empire, in a status similar to that of a vassal in the feudal system in medieval Europe. You should get more influence than them, thanks to spamming the Ministry of truth. 5. Vassalizing empires is definitely my favorite way to win (tied with Rogue Servitors). A vassal has still some use, even if their military support is questionable, e. You can't integrate them, you can't prohibit their expansion, you can't limit their diplomatic options, you can't build any holdings and you can't give them subsidiaries as their overlord. Right now the only worth while vassal is tributary as direct vassals are too weak and bring no benefit to be worth it. ”. Stellaris Dev Diary #313 - 3. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Vassal play is primarily aimed at Tall, and while it "needed" it, it doesn't make it any less limited in scope. 1;Which is better? To make a neighboring civ a tributary or a vassal? Pros/cons? Obviously, vassal gives naval capacity, what's better long term?Potent Rebellions has this. Next to the “Demand Vassalization” button will either be a green tick or a red cross. The casus belli lasts only for a year. But i want to role play as an empire that rules core worlds while letting vassals rule in their stead but sadly their is no real benefit to vassalizing anyone apart from tributary (which makes feudal society useless. 4 we had those two vastly different types of subjugation: Vassals are diplomatically tied to their overlord, they pay a small tribute and get some benefits. . Targets are more likely to accept becoming certain subject types (such as tribal vassal or tributary status) over others (including feudatory and client status). Primitives: In vanilla Stellaris primitive empires that become spacefaring have been unintentionally handicapped. A protectorate will follow you into war. This is assuming that you’ve researched the L-Gate tech to activate it (separate tech from L-Gate Insights), and have scanned an actual L-Gate. So I just started a new game and stuck between a two xenophone empires and a spiritualist advanced ai that I can become a vassal to. Subjects were allowed in since that almost costs us a war when the AI did not send the fed fleet in time. This community wiki's goal is to be a repository of Stellaris related knowledge, useful for both new and experienced players and for modders. Being a vassal now means you may be drawn into their wars, but they will protect you. The requirements for vassals and tributaries are sick. So this left us with regular vassal w/tax contract, tributary, subsidiary (in case of you being megacorp) and Prospectorium. The only way to instruct a science vessel to explore an unstabilised wormhole is via the right click menu. 5. Copyright © 2016 Paradox Interactive AB. Vassals can be everything, from tributary-like contracts, to specialist contracts, protectorates, offensive, defensive or no military allies at all. Stellaris Military system needs a rework to make Warfare fun in all stages and with all power discrepancy. Make sure they have plenty of food - unfed vassals can starve themselves into revolt. There you can choose which type of vassal to propose to make them. In the case of creating a vassal or tributary state, your Wargoal is to subjugate and control your foe. Stellaris. In essence, a Tributary is a more independent vassal that you cannot really control. So if we integrate mega vassal it will be at least 1000i. They are probably more useful in one of the next patches due to tributary states and maybe some other changes (which is currently missing compared to EU4). What are the pros and cons of doing this compared to just taking my chances of dying to the xenophobes?In Stellaris, becoming a vassal of a regular empire means gameover 99% of the time. I am wondering what the cause of that is and if there is anything I can do to. Vassal, Subsidiary, Tributary, Protectorate, Bulwark, and so on. Making one the vassal and the other the overlord. as a trading partner or a buffer zone. Upon gaining a vassal or tributary an overlord will be immediately prompted to choose a subject type with options based on their ethics. You're just too far behind. Caveat If you're struggling with ethics divergence sometimes it's helpful to. LightsaberMadeOfBees • 4 yr. With the rework that means you can specialize your vassals This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 04:39. Other Features: - All of the subject interaction features of the mod are handled through a new edict: Manage Subject States. on a side note I just found inwards perfectionists can create tributary's instead of vassals. As the title says, is there any way to prevent this? I tried not overtaxing them with tributes, so they have enough resources to keep their planets in order, didn't work. 7: 0 to 225 Vassal limited to 45% maximum tax Subsidiary or Tributary cannot receive subsidy;. Subsidiaries only pay energy, while tributaries pay both energy and minerals. They get 80% reduced tech costs on every tech you've researched. And while they don't contribute towards fleet capacity, you also get the federation. You can't force vassalise your own tributary (since you can't declare war on them), but you can ask them to become your vassal diplomatically. YobaiYamete • Nihilistic Acquisition • 1 yr. Desiring to safeguard my race for the long haul, I became a tributary instead of a protectorate (I did not want to convert to a vassal and risk incorporation). I've seen threads saying they weren't all that good. 25% minerals and energy to grow your fleet. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the 4X grand strategy game Stellaris by Paradox Development Studio. But we'll see. I would use the Tributary option so much more often if it wasn't so inconvenient. That’s your window to declare. ; About Stellaris Wiki; Mobile view vassals can be integrated into your empire so you can eat them without claims or war. Paradox Interactive Stellaris - Federations. -100 for vassaling and -100 for something like war at itself. From beginning on I had three neighboring, strong empires. I don't believe that a vassal/tributary can have subjugates themselves so I. Secondly the Vassal pays 25% of it's Mineral and Energy income to the overlord. For a regular empire, it can happen the other way too -- you start with a Tributary, then it auto-switches to a Protectorate, and then later it auto-switches to a Vassal -- losing your Tributary resource contract entirely, you have to spend Influence to re-negotiate, and whatever you negotiate is thrown away if it swaps into Protectorate again. The integration only took 22 months. r/Stellaris. I believe you have to vassalize them before the integration. It makes changes to what they provide to their overlord. Claims stuff on a different empire, make them a tributary. It'll stop a legitimate megacorp from doing business though, because they can't make commercial pacts even with their sovereign. Prospectorium for non-servitor Machines. If you do Status Quo, you create a vassal/tributary of all BUT the homeworld of the target empire, if at leat one planet is occupied which is not the. From Dev Diary #247. Suppress those silly Xeno's but only for when playing tall. Authors description: Exalted Domination – Vassals And Tributaries. Can i change that after ive already gained them as a vassal? Edit: guess i should read the link u sent lol . I have no idea on that. < >When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. Pairs well with the +200 fleet cap ascension. 5. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Vassals are even worse on higher difficulties, since no matter. And if you really, desperatly want an FE vassal, Gigastructures offer you some very "subtle" way to do so, by subtle I mean weaponizing an entiere solar. Unless we have special perk. In essence, a Tributary is a more independent vassal that you cannot really control. willldebeast • 4 yr. Stellaris desperately needs a threaten mechanic. With my non-specialist vassals I can choose between vassal, tributary and specialist vassal, but when the vassal starts with a specialization the only option I get is to switch them to another specialization. Das Wichtigste an Vasallen ist jedoch, dass. I just technologically enlightened two races, immediately making them vassals. Go expansion edicts first, Start claiming planets left and right. the master gets a button labeled "request vassal forces" during a time of war which gives them control of the Vassals military until. This is just one component of this incredibly complex game; there’s plenty more to learn as you strive to conquer the galaxy. Wars are how mid-game and end-game borders are usually drawn. Empires of all ethics have the option to leave a subject as vanilla vassal or tributary. Tributaries are not your subject, they are independent, can expand freely and you can have pacts with them. Except maybe espionage that causes a political incident. Jun 9, 2019 @ 6:16pm Vassal system is broken. Mar 29, 2022; Add bookmark #14. if you want their territory you vassalize, if you want their energy credits and very much dont want to annex them you go tributary. ago. See screenshots for new tradition effects. Tributaries and vassals are the two most common ways to establish subject states in Stellaris. There should be a “Create Vassal” button in the bottom left corner. the subject gets the benifit of extremely large research bonuses towards military technology researched by its master. A vassal has still some use, even if their military support is questionable, e. Cost, size, upkeep everything to do with ships is peniltized by 50%. This also gives you the chance to release more subjects as you've mentioned, and thus build more info. 36 comments. Is it a good idea to go and take any leftover systems and granting them to my subjects to increase their tribute and lower my own administrative Capacity?Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Imperial Spiritualist authoritarian, feudal and cult perks. Just turn all your non border and core systems into vassals and take the reduced research and unity costs. A vassal is kind of a 'extension' of your empire: you join each other in wars, they cannot expand or conduct indipendent diplomacy and they boost your naval strenght. Expand user menu Open settings menu Open settings menuTributary is not the same as vassal. Otherwise look on the declare war screen it should say make tributary. It is better to release well developed planets as vassal rather wait for them to develop. There are a multitude of reasons that you would want to do this, and it can be beneficial to both parties. Strong diplomacy builds should have you covered. The vassal doesn’t add to your sprawl, keeps their remaining civilian and military ships, and if you play it right continues to develop and donate even more to your empire. This is what will have them give you more science tribute, and since a higher % of. Forced submission: You automatically get a subjugation Casus Beli on any empire that is overall "inferior" to you in fleet, tech, and economic power. 1 This mod adds some flavor to pirates. It adds a planetary decision called "Sow Unrest" that allows you to increase unrest in nearby empires, as well as a way to support nascent rebellions by donating resources and ships to their cause. Vassal produces 50 engineering, 15% would be 7 (think they round down 7. i beleive the difference is that tributary pay you 25% of their energy and minerals and still or mostly independent meaning they can still colonize and i beleve they dont help out durring wars where as vassals go to war with you are not indepent they can be intergrated in to your empire where as tributarys can. galadon3 Nov 27, 2017 @ 8:12am. It may be easier to gain technology advantage with protectorate. Vassals that have already been specialized do not automatically demote even if their tech falls way behind. Vassals have very limited diplomacy with other empires, and cannot build new starbases. Good news is you can choose to do it when ur overlord has just finished a massive war and lost or try and invite some allies into the war. It is a waste of life to just exterminate them all but a member of a hive mind won't be useful to me. vassals are better than having tributaries or trying to conquer one planet at a time because they can be integrated into you country for some cost in influence and will cost far less to demand than the sum of all of their planets added together. I don't believe that a vassal/tributary can have subjugates themselves so I would assume they become your vassal. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. Method 4: Liberation. The Subject/Overlord system needs to have a dynamic between loyalty and cooperation with your Overlord-- Nay, friendship with them, and the more controlling aspects of their leadership. improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and. 1: To intergrate later. Get a couple of special ones for the unique bonuses but I don't really see a reason to have more than. That's all. In Stellaris, stronger empires can bring weaker empires under their rule. As vassal you get the "help", and part of the fleet power of an inefficient non-difficulty boosted AI. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. But i only have 1 option. I thought about getting claims but I wanted to use my influence for something else, so I thought I could make them my vassal and later integrate them. 7. Trouble is War declaration is NOT an event stellaris automatically pauses for by default. "In an Allegiance War, you seek to wrest control of the vassals that have pledged Secret Fealty to you, and they will join in on the attack on their former Overlord. The cost of vassal integration needs to be many times bigger. Stellaris v3 version available here! This mod aims to improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and useful to an overlord. You should get more influence than them, thanks to spamming the Ministry of truth. However, it pays a substantial amount of tribute to its overlord in exchange for protection. If having another prospectorium gives you more basic resources than you can use, then the entire premise of the thread is misaimed: both a prospectorium and a basic resource tributary would be bad choices. the war is them attempting to prove that they are strong enough to govern themselves, your inability to stop them proves that they can. Tributaries and vassals are the two most common ways to establish subject states in Stellaris. On the lowest difficulties it might work, but if you've increased the difficulty even a single step then it won't. Ascension 1: mastery of nature. An incorporating Union is one that an entirely new nation is created. The overlord can't curtail their expansion, doesn't interfere in any of their wars (and vice versa), the tributary simply feeds them resources. You can right-click and explore any wormhole your science ship can reach, regardless of its territory. Subscribe to downloadVassals and Tributaries - Exalted Domination [2. 'War score' at the beginning of war says it's -200. Like Vassal 1 focuses all its invention on making a laser which can heat. You will be presented with many options as demands, and “Vassalize” is one of the options. Integrating a vassal would be changing it into a tributary, then into a sector. Vassals are legitimately just to gain territory without the big upfront influence cost of claims, other than that, tributaries give you 25% of their income but you can’t integrate them. Protectorate an uplifted pre-FTL species for an increase in monthly influence and a potentially powerful ally at the end of it all, or Vassalise an empire for some. I also checked the diplomatic and opinion maps. -100 for vassaling and -100 for something like war at itself. In vanilla if you can get an early tributary by say year 50 you’ve basically won. g. Tributaries themselves are kinda meh and supposedly pretty bugged in 1. Empires of all ethics have the option to leave a subject as vanilla vassal or tributary.